I started out by looking at their solo tackle stats and missed tackle stats up to week 16 of 2011 through 2009. I used stats from ProFootballFocus.com to get missed tackles (MT) and solo tackles (Solo). PFF does not include sacks in their solo tackles stat, so I added any sacks a player had to their solo tackles for my tables. I decided to use the MT information and solo tackle information to come up with a MT%. A percentage is a better figure to use than just the total MTs. To come up with this percentage, I divided MTs by (Solo + MTs). It should be noted, that I did not include tackle assists for this calculation. I have emailed PFF to see if they count MTs on attempted assists or just solo tackle attempts. I have yet to receive a reply. After looking at all the stats for CBs, most of them have very few assists. Even without the tackle assists, I believe this MT% gives us a good idea of how well each player performs the act of tackling. I will admit that it's not an exact science. That said, I believe using something like MT% is a more accurate way to rate the TAK attribute for Madden 12 players. Of course, we have no idea what the current procedure is for determining the TAK rating in Madden 12.
The following is two of my tables, one is for 2011 and one is a 3 year total (2009 - Week 16, 2011):
TAK = Madden 12 tackle attribute as of Week 16 roster update
Solo = ProFootballFocus solo tackles + sacks (PFF does not record a solo tackle for sacks)
MT = Missed tackles per ProFootballFocus
MT% = MTs/(SoloTak + MTs)
* = Rookie or 1st year player
2011 Season | 2011 | 2011 | 2011 | |
CB's | TAK | Solo | MT | MT% |
Winfield | 86 | 37 | 2 | 5% |
Haden | 58 | 55 | 3 | 5% |
Browner* | 65 | 49 | 3 | 6% |
Newman | 42 | 45 | 3 | 6% |
Sherman* | 53 | 43 | 3 | 7% |
C.Harris* | 62 | 56 | 4 | 7% |
A. Williams* | 70 | 26 | 2 | 7% |
A.Jefferson* | 63 | 64 | 5 | 7% |
Taylor | 66 | 34 | 3 | 8% |
Revis | 64 | 44 | 4 | 8% |
Gilchrist* | 70 | 21 | 2 | 9% |
Tillman | 70 | 88 | 9 | 9% |
Rogers | 65 | 37 | 4 | 10% |
Webb | 62 | 59 | 7 | 11% |
Jammer | 63 | 42 | 5 | 11% |
Routt | 55 | 45 | 6 | 12% |
Clements | 72 | 52 | 7 | 12% |
Grimes | 53 | 42 | 6 | 13% |
Joseph | 52 | 44 | 7 | 14% |
P. Peterson* | 66 | 39 | 7 | 15% |
Cromartie | 54 | 36 | 7 | 16% |
Woodson | 66 | 69 | 15 | 18% |
Bailey | 66 | 34 | 8 | 19% |
Talib | 52 | 34 | 8 | 19% |
Greer | 56 | 65 | 17 | 21% |
Gamble | 55 | 36 | 10 | 22% |
D. Robinson | 64 | 42 | 12 | 22% |
Asomugha | 57 | 35 | 11 | 24% |
Barber | 66 | 67 | 22 | 25% |
Average | 61.83 | 46.21 | 6.97 | 13% |
Totals | 1340 | 202 | 13% |
3 year MT% | 09'-11' | 09'-11' | 09'-11' | ||
CB's | TAK | Solo | MT | MT% | |
Haden | 58 | 107 | 5 | 4% | 10'-11' |
Browner* | 65 | 49 | 3 | 6% | |
Winfield | 86 | 165 | 11 | 6% | |
Sherman* | 53 | 43 | 3 | 7% | |
C.Harris* | 62 | 56 | 4 | 7% | |
Newman | 42 | 175 | 13 | 7% | |
A. Williams* | 70 | 26 | 2 | 7% | |
A.Jefferson* | 63 | 64 | 5 | 7% | |
Tillman | 70 | 229 | 19 | 8% | |
Routt | 55 | 118 | 11 | 9% | |
Gilchrist* | 70 | 21 | 2 | 9% | |
Taylor | 66 | 141 | 14 | 9% | |
Bailey | 66 | 141 | 14 | 9% | |
Revis | 64 | 118 | 12 | 9% | |
Webb | 62 | 137 | 14 | 9% | |
Clements | 72 | 154 | 17 | 10% | |
Joseph | 52 | 150 | 18 | 11% | |
Rogers | 65 | 120 | 15 | 11% | |
Talib | 52 | 127 | 17 | 12% | |
Jammer | 63 | 131 | 20 | 13% | |
Woodson | 66 | 215 | 35 | 14% | |
Cromartie | 54 | 109 | 18 | 14% | |
Grimes | 53 | 172 | 29 | 14% | |
P. Peterson* | 66 | 39 | 7 | 15% | |
D. Robinson | 64 | 148 | 27 | 15% | |
Greer | 56 | 164 | 31 | 16% | |
Barber | 66 | 207 | 50 | 19% | |
Gamble | 55 | 70 | 18 | 20% | |
Asomugha | 57 | 84 | 24 | 22% | |
Total | 3480 | 458 | 12% | ||
Average | 61.8 | 12% |
Final thoughts and observations:
1. The cumulative 3 year MT% (12%) for these 29 CBs and the 2011 MT% (13%) are very similar. As a group, these 29 CBs are pretty consistent.
2. For many of these CB's their individual 2011 MT% is very similar to their 3 year MT%. Does 3 years of data give us a good indication of how well a player performs the act of tackling? I believe it does.
3. Should Newman, Webb, Revis, Routt, and Haden really be rated lower in the tackle (TAK) attribute than some like Barber or even Charles Woodson (14% MTs in the last 3 years). I know, Woodson is a shocker. Since he is on my IDP fantasy team, I have had the "pleasure" of watching Woodson whiff on many tackles this season.
4. The really interesting part of this table, is that it actually shows some accurate ratings as well. Asomugha, Gamble, Grimes, and Greer are correctly rated below average. You could argue that Asomugha and Gamble could actually be lower. Than you have the Newman/Barber issue, which tops the list of inaccurate ratings.
Thanks for following my blogs. I hope you enjoy this one. Remember, this is the first in a series of tackle (TAK) attribute blogs. I plan to do either safeties or ILB next. Happy New Year. Please, "DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE" tonight (or any night for that matter) and don't let anyone else drink and drive.
Are these tackles vs run and pass? Interesting stats..
ReplyDeleteBoth. Those are the total solo tackles.
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